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[AhmedBahgat]

Salam Maxq

I read the thread about the Islamic Calendar, I can guess that I know DanishJu, I also believe that i know WiseGuy from FFI

I don't know man, I think everything that is required to be said was said already, there is nothing new for me to add

I also dont like to be envolved in Islamic discussions while they resort to the human conjectures and hearsay as evidences

for me the Quran has enough info to conclude that the Solar system is used to count the days and the Lunar month to count the months

regarding Danish argument to how come the moon was created later while the year is calculated from day one of creation

well, Allah didn't tell us that the months were counted from day one of the creation, rather what He told that His decisoion that the months count to be 12, He never told us that counting the days started from day one

in fact it can't be because the creation of the earth toojk place over a period of long time before it was made ready for humans to live on it, and I'm sure that was ages ago before the first human stepped foot on earth, as far as I believe Adam was sent to earth not more than 10,000 years ago, and on the that day the moon and the earth creation was complete millions of years before Adam was sent, so Adam started to count the days and months while the moon was there about 10,000 years ago

can you please copy this comment to Danish as I'm not going to join here for a few days until I read more in there and study most members stand regarding the Quran

salam mate

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam Maxq

I read the thread about the Islamic Calendar, I can guess that I know DanishJu, I also believe that i know WiseGuy from FFI

I don't know man, I think everything that is required to be said was said already, there is nothing new for me to add

I also dont like to be envolved in Islamic discussions while they resort to the human conjectures and hearsay as evidences

for me the Quran has enough info to conclude that the Solar system is used to count the days and the Lunar month to count the months

regarding Danish argument to how come the moon was created later while the year is calculated from day one of creation

well, Allah didn't tell us that the months were counted from day one of the creation, rather what He told that His decisoion that the months count to be 12, He never told us that counting the days started from day one

in fact it can't be because the creation of the earth toojk place over a period of long time before it was made ready for humans to live on it, and I'm sure that was ages ago before the first human stepped foot on earth, as far as I believe Adam was sent to earth not more than 10,000 years ago, and on the that day the moon and the earth creation was complete millions of years before Adam was sent, so Adam started to count the days and months while the moon was there about 10,000 years ago

can you please copy this comment to Danish as I'm not going to join here for a few days until I read more in there and study most members stand regarding the Quran

salam mate

[maxq]

yes I can do that.

[SlaveofAllaah]

[SlaveofAllaah]

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

Thanks Maxq

I have seen the comment, I wished you fixed my typos

Look I write my comment above quick, what I said is this:

the solar system is used for counting the days and nights and the moon for counting the months

I should have said it this way, the speed of earth determines the count of the days and nights and the moon for counting the months, i.e. the solar year have absolutely no use in Islam, let me explain

for the days and nights, the sub is there to only give us the light of the days so we can differentiate between the day and night, this is independent of the earth location around the sun, also it is independent to how fast the earth moves in its orbit around the sun, it only depends on the speed of the earth around its axis and that should determines the days count, for example if the earth takes more than 100 hours (current hours scale) to make a 360 degree turn around its axis then the day will be 100 hours, totally independent on the earth location relative to the sun

as you can see the sun plays an important role in counting the days and night, only to produce the light of the day, that role should not be mixed with the time the earth takes to make one lap around the sun, totally different issues

for the months count, again the sun plays an important role for the moon shades to appear, and again the shades are dependant only on the moon speed around the earth, it has nothing to do with the earth orbit around the sun

therefore the sun is used in counting the days, nights and months irrespective to the location of the earth in its orbit around the sun

trying to translate the names into meanings is very silly in Arabic, I'm called Ahmed it means that my name is Ahmed, the month Ramadan is called Ramadan and it means the its name is Ramadan, calling it scorching heat is very silly indeed,

this lunar year makes great sense that the months of Ramadan will circulate over the 3 seasons in about 27 years, which means everyone should have a high chance to fast Ramadan in all seasons

The requirement Danish came up with as required for any calendar is silly and made up by him, I never heard of such, we don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t need to predict any future as he claims, in fact we can never predict the future as Allah told us, however it is enough system to count the days, nights and months and the past should be recorded well,

the only problem we have is the confusion between all so called Muslim countries in agreeing on one system to work out the birth of the new hilal, if a country managed to see the hilal first then all countries should follow because the hilal appears to the earth as a whole at once, but they never do that

There might be a complication regarding the time difference between the far east and the far west but that should be put on the table for all Muslims to work out a system that is reasonable for all to follow united

Thanks bro

[AhmedBahgat]

Thanks Maxq

I have seen the comment, I wished you fixed my typos

Look I write my comment above quick, what I said is this:

the solar system is used for counting the days and nights and the moon for counting the months

I should have said it this way, the speed of earth determines the count of the days and nights and the moon for counting the months, i.e. the solar year have absolutely no use in Islam, let me explain

for the days and nights, the sub is there to only give us the light of the days so we can differentiate between the day and night, this is independent of the earth location around the sun, also it is independent to how fast the earth moves in its orbit around the sun, it only depends on the speed of the earth around its axis and that should determines the days count, for example if the earth takes more than 100 hours (current hours scale) to make a 360 degree turn around its axis then the day will be 100 hours, totally independent on the earth location relative to the sun

as you can see the sun plays an important role in counting the days and night, only to produce the light of the day, that role should not be mixed with the time the earth takes to make one lap around the sun, totally different issues

for the months count, again the sun plays an important role for the moon shades to appear, and again the shades are dependant only on the moon speed around the earth, it has nothing to do with the earth orbit around the sun

therefore the sun is used in counting the days, nights and months irrespective to the location of the earth in its orbit around the sun

trying to translate the names into meanings is very silly in Arabic, I'm called Ahmed it means that my name is Ahmed, the month Ramadan is called Ramadan and it means the its name is Ramadan, calling it scorching heat is very silly indeed,

this lunar year makes great sense that the months of Ramadan will circulate over the 3 seasons in about 27 years, which means everyone should have a high chance to fast Ramadan in all seasons

The requirement Danish came up with as required for any calendar is silly and made up by him, I never heard of such, we don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t need to predict any future as he claims, in fact we can never predict the future as Allah told us, however it is enough system to count the days, nights and months and the past should be recorded well,

the only problem we have is the confusion between all so called Muslim countries in agreeing on one system to work out the birth of the new hilal, if a country managed to see the hilal first then all countries should follow because the hilal appears to the earth as a whole at once, but they never do that

There might be a complication regarding the time difference between the far east and the far west but that should be put on the table for all Muslims to work out a system that is reasonable for all to follow united

Thanks bro

[SlaveofAllaah]

[SlaveofAllaah]

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam brother Maxq

I read more of what you said regading the word Shahr, I'm really surprised to how you are influenced by Ayman BS, the word Shahr in that verse must mean Month, it can not mean the Full Moon and this is because what I said to Ayman on FM about a year ago, here it is again:

-> What Ayman missed is in this sentence فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ , which means And whosoever witness the month, let him fast IT, is the last letter ْهُ , the letter Ha at the end in the above sentence, this Ha letter is called DAMIR and refers to the word Shahr and is translated as IT, now letÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s consider Ayman flawed translation and we will see clearly that it makes no sense to a child:

Ayman says: Shahr = Full Moon

Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s replace the Damir Ha with what suppose to be referring to what Ayman is conjecturing regarding the meaning of the word Shahr

-> فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ , which means And whosoever witness the FULL MOON, let him fast IT, IT is referring to the Full Moon according to Ayman flawed translation, this should render the above translation to : And whosoever witness the FULL MOON, let him fast THE FULL MOON, it is getting funny indeed

-> Here you have it everyone, how the hell we should fast the FULL MOON?, don't you agree that it should be as follow : فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْ , which means And whosoever witness the FULL MOON, let him fast, the Ha whcih mean IT MUST BE REMOVED because again, how the hell we should fast the full moon?

Of course we can fast the Month of Ramadan, that is why IT is valid in the following sentece : فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ , which means And whosoever witness the The Month, let him fast IT

Salam

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam brother Maxq

I read more of what you said regading the word Shahr, I'm really surprised to how you are influenced by Ayman BS, the word Shahr in that verse must mean Month, it can not mean the Full Moon and this is because what I said to Ayman on FM about a year ago, here it is again:

-> What Ayman missed is in this sentence فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ , which means And whosoever witness the month, let him fast IT, is the last letter ْهُ , the letter Ha at the end in the above sentence, this Ha letter is called DAMIR and refers to the word Shahr and is translated as IT, now letÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s consider Ayman flawed translation and we will see clearly that it makes no sense to a child:

Ayman says: Shahr = Full Moon

Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s replace the Damir Ha with what suppose to be referring to what Ayman is conjecturing regarding the meaning of the word Shahr

-> فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ , which means And whosoever witness the FULL MOON, let him fast IT, IT is referring to the Full Moon according to Ayman flawed translation, this should render the above translation to : And whosoever witness the FULL MOON, let him fast THE FULL MOON, it is getting funny indeed

-> Here you have it everyone, how the hell we should fast the FULL MOON?, don't you agree that it should be as follow : فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْ , which means And whosoever witness the FULL MOON, let him fast, the Ha whcih mean IT MUST BE REMOVED because again, how the hell we should fast the full moon?

Of course we can fast the Month of Ramadan, that is why IT is valid in the following sentece : فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ , which means And whosoever witness the The Month, let him fast IT

Salam

[SlaveofAllaah]

[SlaveofAllaah]

[maxq]

^ Brother, thanks for an excellent case! Let me absorb this information first. A part of me is still not convinced so let me diligently analyze the information you have provided.

I now agree with you that the word مَعْدُودَ , maÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??dood means counted or reckoned, however, from what I have read in the lexicon regarding the use of مَعْدُودَات ma'doodaat is that it is different from مَعْدُودَةٍ ma'doodatin.

I am using OpenBurhan for the Arabic:


And, I present the lexical use from Lanes'

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[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

[Rigel]

Hi, will God question why one prayed with sunni/shia? will God question why anyone prayed at church, temple? Probably not. So simply someone wants to create his own sect!